TRANSCRIPT OF THE SUNDAY MEETING


On Sunday, August 21, 1997 members of the BC Listserv, who were not in Portland, OR, met in the BCforum Chat Room.


Session Start: Sun Sep 21 12:49:18 EDT 1997

(susan) Hello from Portland

(YiT) Hi Susan and everybody in Portland..!!

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(survivor1) It's Renee.

(Sand-i) hi Susan how are things in Portland

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(susan) things are great in Portland

(linda-oh) that's wonderful...glad you are all together...give everyone a big cyber hug for me
(((((((((((((((((((portland)))))))))))))))))))))))))
could everyone introduce themselves...i know a few of you..I am linda from Ohio

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(kareno) I'm Karen from San Diego
(Ginette) i'm ginette hehehehehe
(HoosierKT) I am Kathy Taylor, Kathy from Indiana.
(Sand-i) i am Sandi with an "i" in TEXAS
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(PatTom) I'm Pat Tomchishen
(YiT) im Yvonne from kalamazooo...hehehehe
(goldenfox) k in colorado
(linda-oh) stop it yvonne...you kook
(Janet) Hello all. I'm in Fresno, California
(Virginia) Hi - I'm Virginia from Fort Wayne, IN Glad to be here
(susan) everyone on ok?
(linda-oh) no prob
(Sand-i) ok you ladies reember when Susan starts we want to be sure that we listen :) :) :)
(Ginette) So Susan, what is happening there now? Tell us ALL!
(susan) we are all sitting after breakfasting
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(Janet) I'm Janet Bochin--I occasionally post to the list, but mainly lurk.
(susan) we are in the Renaissance Room which is a beautiful high dome ceilinged room at the Governor Hotel.
(NaomiB) Who's in the room with you, Susan?
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(Sand-i) susan what time is it?
(susan) It is almost 10 here in Portland
(susan) the room is full, couldn't possibly name everyone, it is humming like a beehive lol
(YiT) Hi Elaine..
(kareno) Funny, it's a little after 10 here in san diego.
(HoosierKT) It's after 12 in Indiana.
(Elaine) And after 1 in Va
(Janet) It's 10:09 here in Fresno
(PatTom) Its after 1:00 in Ontario
(Ginette) about 5 past in NY
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(HoosierKT) They're a little slow in Portland.
(susan) hahahahah hoosier
(PatTom) Must be the late nights
(Sand-i) they been up all night in mUsa's room
(NaomiB) They'll find every excuse!
(kareno) Has anyone in Portland slept yet this weekend!
(goldenfox) Susan did you all do the Race for the Cure?
(ragoo) Hi, this is Joyce. I'm using my cousin's nick.
(susan) not much sleep here
(NaomiB) Please tell the whole room "Hello" for us.
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(NaomiB) Hi, Bob!
(ragoo) I'm in Portland, but at my nephews. You guys missed a lot of fun.
(Sand-i) there are fourteen of us not counting Susan that is the lucky one ops there's bob make that 15
(Elaine) Is it safe to say hi to Bob without getting Toya mad?
(ragoo) Susan, are you in the hotel?
(susan) on the race this morning 20-25 of us went and there were about 25,000 total
(Sand-i) are things starting late in Portland Susan???

(susan) Room is quiet, we will start

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(susan) Sandra is announcing that Barb Pender will read the list of angel names
Barb says the list is 95 names, not all from the list. I will not type in all 95 names, just those from the list.

Nancy Kiterman

Annette Friedman
(NaomiB) I miss my dear friend.
(Sand-i) such a fighter
(YiT) very caring.
(Elaine) She was my 1st bc loss.

(susan) Sue Alderman
(NaomiB) What a loss. So young.

(susan) Yvonne Squires
(NaomiB) So long ago, yet it was really yesterday.
(HoosierKT) So brave . . . so inspiring.
(ragoo) Very sad. She lingered for a long time.
(Sand-i) support for everyone till the last
(YiT) my name sake...lovely lady

(susan) Rachel Garfinkel
(NaomiB) Another fighter.
(YiT) inspiring..
(linda-oh) bless her children
(Sand-i) walked her last day
(HoosierKT) Her husband's love and tributes touched my heart so much.

(susan) Andrea Blinkhorn
(YiT) only thru Max did we get to know her..
(NaomiB) At least we still have Max.
(Sand-i) ahhhh Max and Andrea...

(susan) Debbie Mustafa
(NaomiB) She was a neighbor whom I never got to meet. My regret.
(HoosierKT) A fellow teacher . . . we had a lot in common.

(susan) Paula Young
(NaomiB) Oh, too painful.

(susan) Pat Leach
(NaomiB) She always had something kind to say.

(susan) Barbara Clabo
(linda-oh) an inspiration
(NaomiB) My friend, my sister.
My poor Glenn.
(YiT) hard to say...Glen showed all the phases...with much love..
(Elaine) A much-loved wife
(HoosierKT) Another wonderful, supportive husband. She was so loved.
(ragoo) Glen is very caring. I'm sure that meant a lot to her.

(susan) PJ Hagler, we are now listning to the music that was played during her "Homegoing"
(linda-oh) pj i miss you
(HoosierKT) PJ -- the definition of love.
(survivor1) She never lost hope.
(Sand-i) ohhhhh myyyy there are no words
(YiT) will be missed greatly..
(NaomiB) What a terrible loss ... to us, to Mike.

(susan) Debbie Bartoszek

(susan) Nancy Kennedy
(YiT) my friend...a special lady...
(Sand-i) a lovely TEXAN
(NaomiB) So brave.

(susan) Lucie Bergamann-Schuster
(NaomiB) At peace at last.
(HoosierKT) Lucie . . . she got under our skin and into our hearts.
(Elaine) taught me much about living and dying
(Sand-i) a somewhat teacher to us all
(linda-oh) oh lucie
(survivor1) A wonderful advocate for all breast cancer survivors
(YiT) Miss Prickly will be missed...
(linda-oh) such encouragement she gave

(susan) Joleene Kolenburg
(YiT) beautiful lady..Joleene
(HoosierKT) She's not forgotten
(ragoo) There was something very special about Joleene
(NaomiB) She was the sharpest Little Old Lady I ever met!
* Sand-i hugs Bob...she was a special lady
(ragoo) Tsk tsk, Naomi. WAtch that.
(NaomiB) I loved her...and her spirit and her spunk.
(linda-oh) she was always there for you

(susan) Sandra just asked us all to join hands and connect

* YiT joins hands with all here..
(linda-oh) hand----hand
(NaomiB) I'm touching my screen
(susan) moment of silent reflection
(HoosierKT) My hand to yours . . .
(susan) "Good bye our dear friends" - Sandra
(NaomiB) Amen
(YiT) Amen
(ragoo) Amen
(Elaine) Amen

(susan) Barb Watson will lead in song

(HoosierKT) Bless them . . . bless us all

(susan) Amazing Grace

(YiT) beautiful song..
(HoosierKT) My favorite song . . .
(ragoo) Unbelievable song.
(susan) it is echoing beautiful, Barb has a wonderful voice
(HoosierKT) We've lost so much
(ragoo) An innate sweetness.
(linda-oh) amen
(NaomiB) The slaughter has to end.
(susan) Sandra - The definition of grace is strength, beauty and elegance
(HoosierKT) This is so touching here. I can't imagine what it must be there.
(NaomiB) Joleene embodied all of those.
(susan) Lots of sniffles here
(YiT) here too..
(HoosierKT) Here, too.
(NaomiB) My keyboard is going to short out.
(Elaine) Goosebumps here.

(susan) Sandra - we will celebrate our lives and what the list means to us

(linda-oh) i just remembered my sweatshirt...have it on now
(survivor1) I have mine on, too
(NaomiB) I'm wearing the tee shirt from the San Diego party...rock on!
(ragoo) Susan, this was so great for you to do this.
(linda-oh) how true
(NaomiB) Yes, thank you.
(HoosierKT) Thank you, Susan. It makes us a part of the big event.
(survivor1) Thanks from me, too
(Elaine) Thanks from me, as well
(kareno) Thanks here too. I've been feeling so left out, until now.
(PatTom) Yes Thanks
(YiT) me too..
(Janet) Thanks very much, Susan
(ragoo) I didn't go to the hotel this morning, and didn't want to miss this service.
(MRbc) Yes, thanks Susan.

(susan) Sandra and Laurel tearfully read

Love Me Now

If you are ever going to love me,
Love me now, while I can know
The sweet and tender feelings
Which from true affection flow.

Love me now while I am living,
Do not wait until I'm gone
And have it chiseled in marble,
Sweet words on ice-cold stone,

If you wait until I am sleeping,
Never to awaken,
There will be death between us,
And I won't hear you then.

So, if you love me,
even a little bit,
Let me know it while I am living
So I can treasure it.

Barb Watson is singing "That's what Friends are For"

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A Computer Prayer read by Martha Kibbe

As I recall the events of the day at night as I lie in bed,
When all the work of the day is done, this prayer is in my head,
God bless my mom and dad, and bless my girl and boys,
And bless my wonderful husband, too-He brings me so much joy,

And God there's just one more thing I wish that you would do,
If you don't mind my asking--please bless my computer too.
Now I know it's not normal to bless a small machine
But listen just a second and I'll tell you what I mean,

You see, that little metal box holds more than odds and ends--
(NaomiB) Oh, Martha! She's great!
Inside those small components rest a hundred loving friends,,
Some it's true, I've never seen or met
(survivor1) That little metal box connects us all with eachother

We've never shaken hands or ever truly hugged, and yet,
I know for sure they love me by the kindnesses they give
And this little scrap of metal is how I get to where they live,
By faith is how I know them the same as I know you,

I share my life with them so, if it's ok with you.
Just take an extra minute from your duties up above
To bless this little hunk of steel that's filled with so much love.

(HoosierKT) Amen! Bless my connection with the world!
(linda-oh) amen
(Sand-i) amen
(PatTom) Thanks Martha
(linda-oh) our source of strength and inspiration and encouragement
(NaomiB) You guys are the best!
(HoosierKT) Linda, is that Martha or the computer?
(linda-oh) both

(susan) The Goose Story read by Kibbe

This fall when you see geese heading south for the winter...

flying along in V formation... you might consider what science has discovered as to why they fly that way:

As each bird flaps its wings, it creates an uplift for the bird immediately following. By flying in V formation the whole flock adds at least 71% greater flying range, than if each bird flew on its own.

People who share a common direction and sense of community can get where they are going more quickly and easily because they are traveling on the thrust of one another.

When a goose falls out of formation, it suddenly feels the drag and resistance of trying to go it alone... and quickly gets back into formation to take advantage of the lifting power of the bird in front.

If we have as much sense as a goose, we will stay in formation with those who are headed the same way we are.

When the head goose gets tired it rotates back in the wing and another goose flies point.

It is sensible to take turns doing demanding jobs...with people or with geese flying south.

Geese honk from behind to encourage those up front to keep up their speed. What do we say when we honk from behind?

Lots of chuckles here hahahaha
(Sand-i) hahahha

(susan) Finally...and this is important...when a goose gets sick or is wounded by gunshots, and falls out of formation, two other geese fall out with that goose and follow it down to lend help and protection. They stay with the fallen goose until it is able to fly or until it dies, and only then do they launch out on their own, or with another formation to catch up with their group.

If we have the sense of a goose, we will stand by each other like that.

(HoosierKT) My mother always said I didn't have the sense God gave a goose.
(kareno) now you know what she meant. :)
(NaomiB) I have two geese in my back yard. They are always together and stay loyally by my back door all day long.

(susan) How Many Friends Have You? read by Nancy Dyson, Contributed by Angie Lovelace

(YiT) HOOT,HOOT,HOOT..

The old man turned to me and asked,
"How many friends have you?"
Why 10 or 20 friends have I
And named off just a few....

He rose quite slow with effort
And sadly shook his head
A lucky child are you
To have so many friends he said

(HoosierKT) Show me the fudge.
she always makes me laugh

But think of what you're saying
There is so much you do not know
A friend is not just someone
To whom you say "hello"
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A friend's a hand to pull you up
From darkness and despair
When all your other "so called" friends
Have help to put you there.

A true friend is an ally
Who can't be moved or bought
A voice to keep your name alive
When others have forgot

But most of all a friend's a heart
A strong and sturdy wall
For from the hearts of friends
There comes the greatest love of all!!!

So think of what I've spoken
For every word is true
And answer once again my child
How many friends have you?

And then he stood and faced me
Awaiting my reply
Soft and sad I answered
"If lucky ....one have I"

(linda-oh) what a wonderful poem
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(linda-oh) tears

(susan) Tommy Williams is talking about spouses,
how it could have been the spouse who was ill instead
Tom - we care very much about what is going on with you
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Tom - The more we travel this journey, the more pressure we get
Tom -" we may form our own support group, so we may have to fight with you for computer time!!!!
Tom - I can't blame it on chemo brain, but a song talks about reaching out and touching the face of god
(Ronnie) A great idea.
(susan) tom - we need to reach out and touch the face of our god and we all will eventually
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(Ronnie) (I meant the spouse's support group)

(susan) Tom- In 1977 my sister was raped and murdered by a neighbor I now no longer wait till the funeral to give people flowers I hope we no longer wait to share flowers -

(susan) Roberta Kiley will read a post

Belongingness

Hi All,

While preparing for Portland in a few weeks, and reflecting on Chicago, D.C., and some of the local gatherings I've attended, I want to talk about "belongingness".

I don't know about the rest of you, but I've never before enjoyed such a large circle of friends, and the unique closeness that we share, as I now have via this list.

Oh, I've belonged to many clubs and groups, attended numerous meetings and reunions, but always with a sense of aloneness and detachment. For example, I enjoy class reunions, and attend... every 5 or 10 years. Then wait for word on the next one. I've worked on political committees, and it's a great social experience, but after the election, it's left to go home alone until the next election.

I've always had a few close friends, but never felt part of a larger group, as we have here.

In Chicago I was on emotional overload. The energy, the caring, the bonding, the love, was overwhelming. Nor was all that good feeling something that was left behind. Thanks to this list, and local gatherings, we're able to sustain this spirit.

The only way I can describe it is "belongingness". Like a family? A tribe? A community? None of these terms does justice to what I'm feeling.

Bob Stafford, in Chicago, while addressing the group, said something about that he would do anything he could to help anyone in our group, and he felt that the feelings were mutual, that he could ask help of anyone of us, and it would be given. What a beautiful thought, and true. That's what sets us apart from other groups.

I love you all, and I feel loved by you all. And I've never before belonged to a "group" where I could feel comfortable saying that.

Breast Cancer brought us together, but love keeps us together.

Luv, Bert

(susan) We will close with a Prayer by Fran Beslanwitch, but she is not here!!! hahahah
she just left for the bathroom
lots of laughing going on!!!
She is back and reading her prayer

Sandra - That is the end of the official meeting


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